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challenge question is d, 1977. this was the same year that jimmy carter became president. >> we meet again at last. >> the first "star wars" came out and apple 2 computers went on sale. if that seems archaic, lawmakers in some u.s. states have recently suggested that firing squad, electrocutions and gas chambers be used since there has been a lethal injection drug shortage. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. . . hello, i'm jim sciutto in new york. "reliable sources" will begin in a moment. first, the very latest on the search for flight 370. a third satellite image data shows possible debris floating in the southern indian ocean after two other satellites also spotted objects there. this latest satellite data comes from france, according to malaysian authorities. today eight planes searched the ocean near where earlier satellite images were released by china and australia.
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searchers did find something yesterday, a wooden pallet with strapping belts floating in the water, pallets are used in the airline industry but they're also used in shipping so it's not clear where this came from. malaysian authorities said today the last transmission from the plane at 1:07 a.m. the night it disappeared showed nothing unusual and the plane was still heading at that point for beijing and that could debunk the idea that the plane's computer was reprogrammed before that turn to take a different route. i'm joined by andrew stevens, live in perth, australia. andrew, now two satellite images, new satellite data from france focusing and showing some possibly large pieces of debris in that area. has that changed the search or increased any hopes that they're going to find something? >> it's increased hopes they're going to find something, jim. the australian prime minister was sounding very hopeful this morning, talking about the credible new leads in the satellite images coming from
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china and also the debris that pallet you talked about. now we have the new information coming via malaysia from the french, tantalizing, though, we don't know whether this new satellite image, this new object is in the same zone close to where the australians located their two objects and the chinese two days later saw their single object. we don't know how close it is to that. certainly there is a sense here and it has pretty much kept up through the day despite the fact that all planes returned blank, empty handed from the search, there is a sense of optimism being led by the government really this remains the best lead and if anything, it's actually getting stronger. >> andrew, the other news from the press conference today, the malaysians saying, in fact, there is no indication from the plane that that turn to the west when it lost communication was preprogrammed. there had been some reports to that effect. it's early days in terms of that new information.
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but how important could that news be in terms of the investigation as to what caused the disappearance? >> well, i think it could be very important because if it wasn't preprogrammed in, it could signal that that was an event that could have been a catastrophic failure. it opens up that theory once again. as we continually talked about this the theorys have been ever changing, ever shifting. centering around hijack, terrorism, catastrophic failure. there's still really no strong evidence, one way or the other, there's so much news comes out, retracted, changed, so we're still pretty much at that very open-ended area of what actually happened. as far as the authorities will tell you, and they continue to tell you this and they've told us this from day one, until they find that plane and if it is in the southern ocean, the deep southern ocean, we're talking about water three miles deep, they've got to find that plane before they can start piecing together the rest of this
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extraordinary mystery. >> that really is the key clue at this point, the plane itself. thank you very much to andrew stevens in perth where the planes are taking off to search that area now. another live update at the bottom of this hour. "reliable sources" starts right now. >> good morning. an welcome to washington. i'm brian stelter. today on "reliable sources" i've invited some of the best media experts i know to examine the continuing coverage of malaysia air flight 370. i'm eager to hear what you think too. this has been a story unlike any other. frightening, riveting, heartwrenching and baffling and there's still no ending in sight. but up first, cnn. has been covering the missing malaysian airplane around the clock, that's no news to most of you watching at home, and the coverage has brought this network lots of praise, lots of viewers, but thumb's down from some media watchers. one of the harshest critic has been the king of cable news, bill o'reilly, who seems to hate the wall-to-wall coverage. watch this. >> i -- when i'm watching this
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i'm like throwing -- i'm upset about it. i know i'm old school, but i know it's ratings. obviously it's ratings, people want to watch the mystery, but it's now corrupting the news business, i think. >> on the bright side for mr. o'reilly, though, this has given him opportunities to mock cnn for its role in leading the coverage. >> enter the lunasy. singer courtney love tweeted to her 300,000 followers she's discovered the jet. somewhere in the indian ocean. there is no truth to the rumor that cnn immediately hired miss love to anchor one of its broadcasts. to say this whole media situation is out of control, is the understatement of the century. >> of the century. i hope o'reilly didn't bump into his colleagues megan or sean in the halls of fox last week. every night after he complained about crazy theories and
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overcoverage, they did exactly what they criticized. brought on retired general tom mcinerney who offered some sort of evidence, i use that word loosely, the plane was hijacked by terrorists and landed in pakistan. >> i suspect we may in the next 24 to 48 hours, start hearing from either the malaysian or pakistani government. if the pakistani government doesn't talk soon they're going to be complicit in this. >> for this plane if it would have landed in pakistan, pakistanis would have had to know that? >> yes. >> at this point you said that the pakistanis if they don't speak up soon they would be complicit. i would argue they're complicit now not sharing their information intelligence about this with the world. is that a fair observation? >> i think that's a fair observation. >> before you ask yourself, could that possibly be true? one night later mcinnerry threw iran in the mix too. seemed a little like a war
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within fox. greta kind of sounding like she was rooting for cnn. watch. >> so i'll go off the record for just a minute and this off the record does not apply to you viewers. that's important. because this message is only to those hand wringers going on tv or writing columns to criticize or announce some personal upset about the extensive coverage of flight 370. they need to get over it. have they forgotten that 239 people are missing or maybe murd ered 239? >> what's interesting is they show the split, that does exist in the media about how and how much the missing plane should be covered. so let's bring in a media critic probably watched more of this coverage than anybody, eric of "the washington post." thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me on. >> in one of your blog post you said you watched 50 hours of this plane coverage. how many are you up to now? >> between 60 and 70 hours.
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i'm checking out pretty regularly. full disclosure i have been a regular cnn watcher here. >> and we were playing all those clips from fox and i find them interesting because in these clips you can see a sort of editorial debate going back and forth at fox in a way you haven't seen on any other channels. what do you make of bill oo'rei speaking the way he did, is he just looking for an excuse to -- >> i think he's nervous he lost in the demo the younger viewership three nights in a row last week and he started getting nervous. >> right. he wins in the ratings every night pretty much always. >> right. >> to lose even one night was a big deal. >> and then he lost three nights in a row and it must be a terrible thing to over cover something like this because if you're beating bill o'reilly you're wrong. the other nets have seen how cnn has used this to boost its ratings which i don't fault them for at all and they've tried to
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get in to do a little more. but cnn by virtue of being criticized for, you know, oh, wall-to-wall ridiculous coverage by virtue of all that criticism media critics and so forth, that's helped them. whenever people want to get an update they know to go to cnn because it's always going to be there for them. i think the criticism has done a tremendous service to cnn. >> we heard bill o'reilly saying overcoverage of a story like this corrupts the news business. >> that's nonsense. >> no no. >> over coverage gets a bad wrap. on some of the sites and critics, over coverage as if simply going heavy on a story is a sin in itself. now, think about newspaper columnists or, you know, any print reporter. when they stay on a story, they get awards and the awards always say, stick to it. on the story, never let go of the story. the moment a tv network does the nonstop coverage, they're a
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source of derision. how is that? i think that we have to stop recriticizing overcoverage or nonstop coverage. i like it. when news organizations make strong decisions to go heavy on something and put resources behind it often times very good things happen. they break news. maybe that won't be the case here because this is such a hard thing to solve but i like over coverage, when news organizations obsess over something. >> i think we've seen big difference between cable news channels. we have a seen cnn go heavy on the plane, we saw fox pick up on the story but avoid it for a while, msnbc has been also on this story in the ratings. maybe we are seeing more clearly than ever how different these cable news chance are. >> oh. >> and that's a good thing perhaps. >> that is a good thing. my point here is that jeff zucker doesn't go all-out -- >> for cnn. >> cnn worldwide. >> if he doesn't go all-out on
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this story he should be fired because cnn is perfectly positioned to do this story. it brands itself as a way up the middle of this ideological cable divide. there's nothing more unideological on this story, at least the way it looks now, than a missing airline. i mean there is nothing more nonideological. that's one cnn. two, it's an international story. cnn is way more suited to carry out this story than its other -- invests overseas, bureaus everywhere. i was talking about the muscle, it has to do this. if it doesn't do this, it, you know, your leadership should be fired. and marched out of their offices. it has to do this for survival, for its future. there is no other option. >> cnn has had some off moments in the coverage. i want to play a clip from don lemon from last weekend and react to it. >> i've been getting questions from viewers on social media, through e-mail and even on the
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streets, especially today, on a day when we deal with the super natural, when we go to church, the super natural power of god, you deal with all of that, people are saying to me, why aren't you talking about the possibility, i'm just putting it out there, that something odd happened to this plane, something beyond our understanding. >> this clip then got picked up and spread widely on-line. one of the unique qualities of "reliable sources" we get to review cnn's coverage. how did you react to that clip and things you've seen. >> that's pure idiocy. that needs to be and deserves to be condemned. i mean because -- >> you don't think there's a way to bring up god on a sunday evening like that. >> no. >> no. >> i would be against it. i would -- cnn after all, you know, talks about its reporting, has, you know, bureaus and reporters and producers and it's got all this muscle to report and then you're talking about god while this still is very much an ongoing thing.
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i don't think so. and i think that the derision over that particular issue, it gives the critics a foothold when, in fact, i do believe having watched mountains of cnn coverage, that there's been a lot of very good, solid, explanatory stuff. i like martin savidge up there in ontario in that flight simulator talking about like what would happen here and it gives you sort of a sense of what might have gone on. it's as close to like sort of like responsible speculation as i think that you can get. and on the speculation thing too, i also believe that if you watch -- read the coverage too like "the wall street journal" story, had his story about a week and a half ago, talking about how the plane could have gone on, he has people talked about how investigators are going over various scenarios and it became very clear that investigators speculate as well. so when you have officials speculating, it's -- i think it's less condemnable when a
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news organization engages in it. >> thanks for joining me. >> pleasure to be here. >> i need to fit in a break. you want to here my next segment. two of the best aviation beat reporters in the world are here to share the unexplored angles you haven't heard about. stay tuned. ssful business. so we provide it services you can rely on. with centurylink as your trusted it partner, you'll experience reliable uptime for the network and services you depend on. multi-layered security solutions keep your information safe, and secure. and responsive dedicated support meets your needs, and eases your mind. centurylink. your link to what's next. i've quit for 75 days. 15 days, but not in a row. for the first time, you can use nicorette even if you slip up, so you can reach your goal. now, quit on your own terms with nicorette or nicoderm cq.
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welcome back to "reliable sources." i want to open up this question, has the blanket news media coverage of the missing plane helped or hinnered the official investigation into the disappearance. one role of the press as the word press implies is to press for answers. this week we saw new leaks from government officials, we saw hopeful leads in the search, and we saw painful scenes of family members demanding answers from the malaysian government. some were asking the press to keep pressing. the reality is, we in the media operate on a very different timeline than forensic investigators.
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sometimes we scoop them, oftentimes we pressure them. there's no denying sometimes it affects the investigation. bring in two people who know that better than just about anybody. miles o'brien who covered the aviation industry for cnn for years and is back this month as cnn's aviation analyst. he's a science correspondent for the pbs news hour and john ostrour for "the wall street journal." both of you brought up the idea for the segment, the idea that these timelines are very different. the media timeline and the investigator timeline. miles, is this something true in any investigation like this. >> the investigations take years an the news appetite is immediate. the amount of facts available are inversely proportioned to the demand for them. so what happens is, as time goes on, the facts come in but our attention moves elsewhere. >> we've moved on. >> yes. >> a lot of criticism of media speculation but you've been breaking news on the story. what is the single angle you've
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been honing or focusing on as you try to figure out what happened? >> as far as the actual press coverage what we tried to hone in on was getting past the myriad of things it could possibly have been and really get to what we could actually verify and know what actually happened happen. >> do you have a couple key questions you're trying to answer? there is the overarching question about where this plane is. there are a couple specific ones you want answers to which will lead us there? >> there are a few things that we've been wondering about throughout the course of the week. where were the pings before those last happened? no one has said definitively where the aircraft was believed to have been before it got to the two massive corridors in the north and south. >> your sources won't tell you? >> it's not clear at this point what that map looks like. >> miles, do you have a couple questions like that as well? things you want to own in on and know the answers to? >> yeah. i would like to listen to those air traffic control tapes.
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we have not heard them. i want to hear it from the point of departure through good night and supposedly another aircraft trying to relay to them and by one account there was a mumble in reply. that could be very telling right there. we haven't really seen much about the maintenance records of the aircraft. was there any problem with the pressurization system. an important question potentially. we've seen that happen with the helio crash and payne stewart crash and the people who flew with the two guys in the cocook cockpit and the ten flights prior. was there anything unusual about how they flew the airplane. that could help shed a little light at what we're talking about right now. >> making me realize how much we still don't know, pore than two weeks after the disappearance at pes point? >> in the u.s. we're used to an ntsb style template of releasing information. they have it honed down pretty well. they know how to run these investigations in a systemic way
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and a very -- there are protocols for how they release this information. what you have in malaysia is chaotic and incomplete frankly, and as a result, it just has fed a lot of speculation. so getting bet are, they've brought in some outside help and hopefully this will improve over time. >> are there times when reporters may get in the way of these processes? >> oh, yeah. we're nothing but trouble for them really. becau we cause a lot of trouble. our job and their job are diametrically opposed. we have different deadlines and requirements and we have stories we must write and air time to fill and unfortunately what happens is, nature abhors a vacuum, gets filled and sometimes with wacky things. >> do you keep that in mind when you are making calls, digging for information on this story? >> certainly when looking at a story where there is no information up front, where you start with a blank sheet of paper and know something has happened. >> right. >> and you start with that and you kind of work from there, you
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can go what do you know? what do you know about the type of aircraft involved, what do you know about the airline, what do you know about the region, what you know about the potential politics involved in all of this. you start with what you know and what you can verify with your own two eyes. >> and yet, we've heard so many different theory, everybody has a theory. do these random seeming theories people bring up lead to actual reporting that's useful? >> i had folks this last week experts in satellite design get in touch with me, experts in search and rescue, to begin to establish the type of questions you want to ask, maybe not the complete picture of a question, but certainly a bug in my ear about things to look for. >> miles, you must be getting asked everywhere you go what you think has happened. >> yeah. you know, pilots call it hangar talk, we call it speculation when it's in the media. the speculation is what leads to the questions we all ask. the problem is, in the 24/7 news
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operation, you're seeing that whole process. warts and all. sometimes you don't want to see the sausage being made to mix my metaphors. the speculation is part of framing the discussion of what the possibilities are. you throw out an idea and then you start trying to knock it down and pilots do this in hangars and we do this on tv sometimes. the pilots get mad at us but they're doing the same thing. >> even your mother was asking you, what do you think happened? >> going to my head i don't know. look at the slate of facts you've got and and you can look at the theories created. >> is it sometimes people think you're holding back information. >> there's a natural tendency for that. from our per sper tick, we were discussing this before we went on, the idea is that you would be holding something back and wouldn't be giving the full picture but certainly that is totally hypothetical to what our role is and jobs are. to provide that picture is most
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clearly as we can, it's also important on top of all this to say what you don't know. ask the questions that you're still curious about out in the open because it has a way of generating more information and really framing how you're thinking about something. >> absolutely. on-line journalism has helped teach people to share what they don't know, share what they don't know and express that. you had an interesting career path as a blogger before "the wall street journal". tell us what got you interested in yavgs. >> i think i was born. not to bring up my mother again, but she likes to tell the story that when i was 3 i asked for a second fisher-price airport play set. she asked me why and i said mostly because the airplane needs somewhere to land. >> somewhere to happened. it's always been in my blood. and i've always loved it. i had some really wonderful teacherses in high school growing up, one physics teacher in particular, who really helped guide my interest and helped me answer not just the question --
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the practical questions about, you know, what kdoes it do but how does it apply? how do you take the science and physics and make it real? >> did it start at birth? >> i'm a third generation aviation pilot. both my maternal grandfathers were pilots. i had the models, on and on. it was a privilege to cover it for as long as i did at cnn to have that, to be given the license to become an expert on something. and really cover a beat. that's actually rare becoming rarer and rarer in our business. >> it is. miles and john, thank you for joining me. >> thanks. >> time for a quick break. the latest news from the search for malaysia air flight 370. don't go away. research suggesth plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. with 7 antioxidants to support cell health.
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hello i'm jim sciutto in new york. "reliable sources" will continue in a moment. first, the very latest on the search for flight 370. a third satellite image shows possible debris floating in the southern indian ocean after two other satellites also spotted objects there. the latest satellite data comes from france according to malaysian authorities. p eight search planes searched the ocean near where earlier images were released by china and australia but they did not turn up anything. searchers did find one thing yesterday a wooden pallet with strapping belts floating in the water. they are used in the airline industry but also used in shipping so it's not clear where
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this came from. authorities said today the last transmission from the plane at 1:07 a.m. the night it disappeared showed nothing unusual and the plane was still heading for beijing. that appears to undermine the theory the plane's computer he was reprogrammed to take a different route. i'm joined by jim clancy live in kuala lumpur. the latest from the capital of malaysia. as we hear that word from malaysian investigators about the last communication, no evidence of preprogramming of the flight plan and westward turn how important is that, potential development, in terms of what caused the disappearance? >> well, the bottom line in all of this is that the u.s., sources within the u.s., have been pointing to the pilots for a long time and there was this -- they never said it was downloaded by the acars system, that they had preprogrammed that turn of their flight to the west
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that took them out of the south china sea. at the same time that was suspected as the only source of the information. as we understand it tonight, they also judged it as a matter of how smoothly that turn was made. how straight on course if you will, it was. that was also a factor in all of this. look, i was able to sit down with one of the people that was involved in this investigation, they believe that the americans, for whatever reason, think it just a coincidence too far that this plane should reach the end of kuala lumpur air space and before it gets into vietnam and checks in with the ho chi minh city tower it has a catastrophe or something goes wrong. that seems to be the basis here. malaysia by saying this is saying we've cleared the pilots. jim? >> that's an important development but as you say not a final answer on that because they still haven't found the plane. quickly you have now three bits of satellite data pointing to
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this area in the southern indian ocean. a sign of hope for the searchers? >> certainly there are clues that have to be verified, though. we've been here before. we need solid evidence. something that will link it directly to flight 370, jim? >> no question. as you know, the planes that have gone to those areas have found nothing when they've take an closer look. after the break more "reliable sources" with cnn's brian stelter. it's a growing trend in business:
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welcome back to "reliable sources." the information coming from malaysian authorities about missing plane has been a mess. sometimes the information has been incomplete, other times it's turned out to be totally
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wrong. transparency has been lacking to say the least. it's kind of like watching a case study on how not to handle a crisis. imagine what it's felt like for the families of the people on the plane. they've been pleading for more information. so why has it been so bad? maybe one major reason is because malaysia does not have a free press the way we're using to having here in the united states. the media there is mostly government controlled, so officials are not in the habit of answering questions they don't want to answer. yet, there are some malaysian reporters attempting to do what we take for granted to cover the government's actions without fear. one is the editor in chief of the malaysian insider and joins me now from kuala lumpur. >> thanks, brian. glad to be here. >> it's clear malaysia is dealing with a national tragedy, one still unfolding. here we've been surprised by some of the lack of information we've heard from the country you're in.
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is that typical there? is a lack of information a constant problem for someone like you who is reporting on the government all the time? >> they're not used to live, 24-hour live coverage where everything is exposed. they're used to edits that come out in 8:00 news bulletins. the tv stations are controlled, radio stations are controlled, print media is controlled so the only free media is on-line media. >> on your website, for example, you report something that government officials don't like, what are the consequences some. >> what they do is they investigate you from covering some of the events. we have a tag that says, we are journalists but they bar us from some of the events. they bar us from briefings. only have exclusive editorial briefings for print media and electronic media. we can't control them. >> i'm interested to hear what it's like to operate in a country where there is so many different kinds of government
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restrictions on the press. are there specific examples you've been barred from covering a certain story or had interference in some way? >> yes. i mean, the fact that we are impartial, neutral and we ask questions, that really makes people uncomfortable. they're not used to being questioned this way. they're used to people just accepting the answers and printing out the next day or the late night news bulletins. >> are you apprehensive to talk about these experience? does it make you fearful of consequences down the line. >> there was a time few years ago we were fearful something would happen to us. from the previous prime minister they stied they would take a hands off from the internet media. they have not actually hassled us in any way, or called us in for questioning or taken down our statements for any of our coverage, but i haven't personally had any of my service
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confiscated or anyone hassled. once in a while you might get your servers. you don't know who does it. you might suspect someone linked to the powers that be but you're never sure. >> in your site in particular or just in general? >> it has happened to us a couple times. before the general elections, you know, we experienced heavy denial of service attacks. and we had to use software like cloud, google speech, just to get our servers up. it was massive. one of the attacks nearly knocked out my internet provider, that he had to black hole us for a few days. they couldn't take the traffic. >> well, it's a brave thing to be doing, to be reporting on the web, going around the government restrictions there. thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you, brian. >> time for a quick break.
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welcome back. vladimir putin and barack obama have been facing each other down all week. sanctions and rhetoric at each other as the crisis over ukraine and crimea grows tense. there has been a media war going on, going on inside rt, russia today. that's the moscow controlled propaganda cable news channel that comes into millions of americans' homes.
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we've learned this week that inside the network, american anchors are being pulled off the air. in favor of russian journalists and others more willing to tow the pro-russian line. joining me to talk about this is the rt anchor that quit her job live on the air. first play that moment one more time for those of you who haven't seen it. >> i cannot be part of a network funded by the russian government that whitecawashes the actions putin. i'm proud to be an american and believe in disseminating the truth and that is why after this news cast, i am resigning. >> wild clip. we always have to play that to introduce liz wahl. thank you for coming back. >> thank you. >> we talked here two weeks ago. you've had an interesting two weeks i'm sure since. and now there's word in part interest you that some of your former colleagues there, other americans who worked at the channel, have been taken off the air. what can you tell us about that? >> that's right. the increased media scrutiny has
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put people on the inside there on the edge. they know before not a lot of people knew what rt was, it kind of had this very consistent, fringe extremist following. this is the kind of audience they cultivated. now after my resignation, it's become clear and more -- it's -- people know what this station is all about now and there's people that want to be credible reporters and that are worried about possibly what they're going to be doing in the future and are standing up now, are saying no, i don't feel comfortable pushing this propaganda. it's led to an internal revolt. >> you're hearing this from colleagues who you still speak to? >> yeah. it's pretty obvious because they posted youtube clips. >> you can see who's on air. >> and the person that is on air is somebody that is the russian correspondent. they put her on the air. somebody that has not been shy to be -- somebody that would be willing to -- would not
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hesitate. >> agrees with management. >> she's done controversial reports that fits rt's native, the anti-american narrative, stirring up paranoia. the profile she fits. never been on the anchor desk before. she's been on every day this week. on monday one of the reporters that was supposed to anchor, one of the american reporters, voiced concern before the live 4:00 p.m. news cast and that -- she was taken off and since then we haven't seen an american anchor back on the desk. things are tense. >> and, of course, may not get many viewers on television, but we've both mentioned that youtube channel. that is the by some measures the most widely viewed news channel on youtube because they've been on it for years, been very good about promoting their clips so some people who view their clips may not realize what they are. >> no. no. and that was part of why i thought it was important to make it public what exactly the station was about. i didn't realize that it would blow up to the extent it did,
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but i wanted people, even if they just googled and find out what is this rt, this clip that i'm watching, consider the source. and the source is that it's funded by the russian government, the opinion -- the opinion talk show hosts on there are people that tend to be very hostile toward the west, very anti-american, are very conpir toerl actually. >> that's where it gets interesting. i like to hear people's views critical of america. i'm personally turned off by extre extremism, of course, but i'm interested in hearing those critiques. where it gets more complicated is the notion of conspiracy theories. >> absolutely. >> that's what you hear oftentimes on this channel. >> conspiracy theories get dangerous. i never realized -- i was never a privy to this world before but working there i realized how dangerous it is. these people hear these conspiracy theories and think that it's fact. the insiders hatched the story with one of their friends saying
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that my resignation was part of a neocon plot. >>
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>> he was bringing up george soros and connecting the dots in ways that probably aren't connectible. is this the sort of thing that's par for the course on the channel? >> absolutely. this is part of their strategy. they get these voices. they get these extreme voices on that have this kind of hostile toward the west viewpoints towards the world, very extremist. these are the people that they have on. and when i was on the anchor desk they would instruct you to add on these guests and try to get them, you know, rallied up, to really fire off their anti-american talking voice. listen, i'm all about exposing government corruption. i'm all about being critical of the government. this is different. this is promoting the foreign policy of somebody that has just
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invaded a country, has invaded the country and is then lying about it, is using the media as a tool to fulfill his foreign policy interests. and r.t. is part of putin's propaganda network and is very, very troubling in the wake of what is going on in ukraine today. >> what have you learned in general about the media through this experience? >> what have i learned about the media? well, i've learned what not to do. i' learned what propaganda looks like, where maybe a small element of truth is twisted so far to the point that it's a lie. that's not something i ever want to be a part of. when i do return back to the workforce, i plan to, i have admissions to return to the labor force. i want to be with an organization that is dedicated to elling the truth.
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>> the three words i take away from you are -- consider the source. >> absolutely. >> thanks for joining me. >> thank you. >> when we return on cnn, jumping anchormen and news writing robots. don't go away. meatball yelling c'mon, you want heartburn? when your favorite food starts a fight, fight back fast, with tums. heartburn relief that neutralizes acid on contact. and goes to work in seconds. ♪ tum, tum tum tum... tums! . time to take care of business with century link's global broadband network and cloud infrastructure. we constantly evolve to meet your needs every day of the week.
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and finally this morning, did you know that robots, robots sometimes write the news you
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read? companies like reuters have been using dput iralgorithms to come up with stories for years. this week "the los angeles times" demonstrated another way they can be used, a much more dramatic way they can be used. it happened right after this. >> thank you. coming up, more problems for -- >> earthquake. we're having an earthquake. >> chris and megan certainly felt it here in the ktla studios. we know you felt it at home as well. while those tv anchors were recovering, quickbot was writing a short story about it. it's robot of sorts that was invented by a journalist at the time who's also a programmer. it grabs u.s. geological survey data kwhefr the earth shakes in southern california and it generates a story almost instantly. according to slate, the programmer rolled out of bed when the quake struck, read over
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the story to make sure it was okay and hit "publish" all within three minutes ap as a result, "the times" got credit for publishing the first story about the quake, although in this case, i think television news did have the jump on it. i mean that literally. that local show of people jumping under the desk has been viewed on youtube 13 million times. thaes ooh that's all for this televised edition of "reliable sources." i hope to see you back here next sunday at 11:00 a.m. eastern time. "state of the union" with candy crowley begins right now. fear and wondering in the west as russian troops move aggressively toward the eastern ukraine border. turmoil and frustration inside the mystery of malaysian flight 370. all right. good night. and then malaysian flight 370 was gone. 17 days missing.